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Meta’s new business terms + AI scraping... how are you all feeling about this?

Hey everyone!! 🤗

I’m guessing a lot of you have seen the noise about Meta’s updated commercial terms in the last couple weeks. If not, here’s the quick TL;DR version:

  • Meta proposed new terms for business accounts on IG, FB, Threads and WhatsApp

  • The original wording said Meta could use content from websites linked to those business accounts to “develop, improve, research, train” their products. Yep, that would include your art website if it’s in your bio or connected to your business profile

  • After a big backlash from creators, publishers and even a US senator, Meta removed the word “train”... but legal experts say words like “develop” and “improve” are still pretty broad

  • There was no opt-out option in the original version

  • It was supposed to start Oct 30, got pushed to Nov 20, and now Meta says it’s postponed until they finish consulting with industry groups. So for now, the old terms are still in place

Nothing has actually changed yet. But honestly, the fact that this was even proposed is making a lot of artists uneasy, and I’d love to hear where you’re at.

A few questions to get us going:

  1. How did you feel when you first heard about this? Angry, worried, shrug?

  2. Are you thinking about changing how you use Instagram or Facebook? (posting less, watermarking, switching to a personal account, trying other platforms?)

  3. Have you done anything to protect your work online so far? What’s worked for you?

  4. For those in the EU or UK, has anyone filed an objection with Meta? How was the process?

  5. Do you feel like you can step away from Meta, or is it just too important for reaching buyers right now?

No wrong answers here. This is a safe space to vent, share tips, or just say “I have no idea what to do”

Let’s talk 👇

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Kyra Teis1d ago

My problem is, I can't imagine a marketing landscape without Meta. And yet, I'm doing a lot of research in order to cut the cord. There is no perfect answer yet for those of us who want to grow new interest in our art. Modern art selling is hand-in-glove with Meta's free platform; it's where buyers go to authenticate your business and develop a relationship with you. I look to Art Helper for community, but Meta for growth. In a post-Meta art-selling landscape, my current thinking is that we will be required to go back to the analog methods...what? Print advertising? Mailing postcards to prospects? Interviews. Art shows and fairs, of course. Email, of course. What else? Can we develop a vision together?

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Daniel Ceglinski2d ago

Does Arthelper offer copyright protection like the ASF websites do? I have posted plenty of artwork here beyond ASF and knowing that Arthelper is copyright protected would prevent a huge amount of extra work to bring these paintings into ASF simply for the copyright.

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Indra Castillo1d ago

Yes! Art Helper is secure from AI data scraping.

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Lisa Colosimo2d ago

Yes, this has concerned me. To the first question, I would say worried. It has made me uncomfortable with staying with these platforms. I have been thinking about not using social media. I like my website and I can send out emails to those who come to my website. So far, my sales have come through my warm market of connections rather than through social media. I am unsure how to protect myself through social media. Since I am still in the developing phase of understanding marketing I can easily step away from Meta and apply what I am learning about marketing through real contacts with people in my area. I haven't decided yet, but I would like to hear from others.

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Indra Castillo1d ago

Yes, I completely understand how uneasy this is making everyone feel. I still think social media plays a huge role in online business marketing, and I have a feeling Meta won't be able to fight so many unhappy users. Of course, this is just me hoping.

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Sherri Nordhaus2d ago

I'm curious if our art is protected if we use art helper to schedule our posts to all things meta. Are protected from scarping of our art or do we need to use Glaze and schedule our posts through somewhere else? Also are our websites with ASF protected from scraping by AI?

Thank you!
PS I'm extremely angry that Meta thinks they have the right to steall our work

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Chris Boese2d ago

Take heart about one thing, Sherri! A number of my friends are academics and book authors. They have signed on to the Anthropic suit, I believe it was, because they found their names and books on the list of books found to have been illegally scanned and ingested by Anthropic. And they are now in the process of getting payments per book used illegally. They aren't huge payments, but, going off my memory, $3,000 per book?

As these things work through the courts, I'd expect a kind of similar class action suit for artists.

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Ueli Wittwer2d ago

Thanks for bringing this up, Indra!

As a Fine Art photographer, I find these proposed changes quite concerning, particularly the possibility of Meta accessing content from independent artists' websites.

There is a significant difference between sharing selected photographs on Instagram or Facebook for marketing purposes and potentially allowing a platform to collect content from an entire art website.

My photography website is where I present and sell my original work. I believe artists should retain control over how their images are used, especially when it comes to AI training.

For now, I don't plan to leave Instagram or Facebook, as both platforms are important for connecting with people who appreciate photography. However, I will be paying much closer attention to Meta's terms and the options available to protect my work.

I'm glad to see that the proposed changes have been postponed and that artists and publishers are speaking up.

It will be interesting to see how Meta responds to these concerns.

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Indra Castillo1d ago

I think you are right not to leave the platforms. At the end of the day, if they were to apply such T&C, we would always find a way. There are many routes connected to Meta that could avoid scraping. But we'll cross that bridge if we come to it.

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Chris Boese2d ago

Thank you for starting this off, Indra! I really like the way you framed it above.

Two things I want to add quickly. Meta says they are studying the feedback, and they moved the date back, but the date it is supposed to go into effect now is November 20. I remain hopeful the protests and activist actions (proposed Insta blackout for those who can afford to from Oct. 31- Nov. 5 I believe) will have a persuasive effect.

As you say, this only affects Business accounts (Instagram, Pages on FB, and I have heard also, Threads, which is also owned by Meta) which is what most of us have. I also post to the Threads Topic "Photographers of Threads" and there is discussion in those spaces too.

Personal accounts are supposed to be exempt, but I suspect that is coming too, except that the hue and cry would be much louder if they rolled it all out en masse. That said, think about what this means for the New York Times, for instance. I am connected with a lot of journalist and journalism accounts. They are talking about pulling down all news content links from the Meta platforms (sort of like what happens in Canada). Meta's blanket claim to hoover up all linked business sites would include all of the New York Times, with archives going back more than 100 years.

Everybody online finds a lot of wiggle room in their removal of the term, "train," meaning they hoover everything up and nobody really knows what sorts it. I have concerns about facial recognition software being used in surveillance on the Meta platform as well.

Another poster brought up a legal angle in the Meta claim that when you sign up for the account, you sign away your AI-opt-out rights for anything you posted IN THE PAST and IN THE FUTURE. They are claiming the right to have already scanned past things posted.

Since they are able to offer EU and UK opt-out options, people in California, which has a similar law, believe they should also have an opt-out provision.

But the legal angle brought up was specifically for GALLERY OWNERS, who collect and curate the work of any number of artists (I have three other artist collections on my Boese Galleries site). They say Meta should not be able to claim blanket rights of AI-ingestion for all individual artists who are collectively being promoted by a business or gallery.

I will do a second post in this thread with some links to resources I've found in following the discussions about this online. Some things may get a little technical, and I know that not everyone is technical or wants to read about wonky details!

Legal actions challenging this have to be on the table somewhere, so watch for class action suits, as that might be something to become part of.

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Anna.Johansson10h ago

Unfortunately, the regulations for Ai is not even present right now which gives room for unrestricted developemt. I don't like it one bit. I suggest Artstorefronts, as a marketing business for artist, can put in some kind of petition that if Meta follows through on this new development it will seriously damage the business. I guess the more people and businesses voice their concern it has more chances to be taken serious.

I have heard that Carney wants to develope their own Ai in Canada to restrict the monopoly that the US tech oligarchs have worlwide.

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Chris Boese2d ago

OK, here's a post with some technical details that artists are exploring to combat Meta's over-broad blanket claim to be able to INGEST all business-based user-created visual content (originally to TRAIN, but now more vague) to become part of their frontier AI development. The real overreach also applies to BUSINESS LINKS posted on Meta, claiming that gives permission for their AI crawlers to crawl and ingest all linked business site content.

So the first attempt to stop this is crawler etiquette on web sites you OWN, your property, your domain. This is done in two primary ways. The easiest one is to edit your site's robots.txt file to basically tell crawlers, NOFOLLOW. Kind of like a KEEP OUT sign!

The BEST RESOURCE I found on what to put in your Robots.txt file is a page for Romance Writers! ;-) Check it out!

https://closeddoorromance.com/block-meta-ai-crawler/

She has instructions for finding your robots.txt file on all different platforms too, like WordPress and Shopify. Here's the gist of what she says:

I spent this afternoon adding some protections to my website, and I want to show you how to do the same. It took me about 10 minutes, and that included a couple of wrong turns I’ll warn you about.

These steps aren’t a guarantee that AI companies can never access your content, but they can help limit access by known AI crawlers.

The short version

Meta says you can still keep its AI bot out with a little file called robots.txt. It’s basically a sign on your website’s front door that says which bots are allowed in. The catch is that it’s a polite request, not a lock, and some legal experts think Meta could argue its new terms override it.

So I did two things: I put up the sign, and then where I could, I actually locked the door.

The sign is these two lines:

User-agent: meta-externalagent
Disallow: /

That’s the name of Meta’s AI training bot, and “Disallow: /” means “stay out of everything.” I also blocked a few other big AI training bots while I was in there. If you want to do the same, add these too:

User-agent: GPTBot
Disallow: /

User-agent: CCBot
Disallow: /

User-agent: Google-Extended
Disallow: /

User-agent: Applebot-Extended
Disallow: /

Don’t worry, none of these affect Google search. Google-Extended sounds scary, but it only covers Google’s AI training, not whether people can find you on Google.

Now here’s where to put those lines, depending on what your site runs on."

OK, I'll do another post with some more links.

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Chris Boese2d ago

OK, following on what I posted for the robots.txt file above, I am also hearing about folks who don't trust AI bots to actually follow etiquette and NOFOLLOW rules for bots in robots.txt files. Boo! They talk about taking an additional step, which is opening your .htaccess file and putting something more definitive in there.

I've messed with my .htaccess files in WordPress before, and to tell you the truth, it kinda gives me the heebie jeebies. I do it, but that is arcane stuff, and I'm always afraid I'm going to break something. It's right up there with putting up my SSL certificate myself. I've done it, but I only did it once a year, and the next year, I'd already forgotten how! Now I pay my WordPress host to keep my SSL certificate current, and pooh on trying to remember how to do it myself!

NOW, let's talk about something that feels more righteous! Let's POISON the AI hoovers! Yay! (It appeals to my Halloweeny Scorpio revengy side!) Karma!

Folks online are talking about Nightshade and Glaze (and WebGlaze). I haven't tried them yet, but I asked about it in the Art Business Strategy webinar with Juan and Indra on Tuesday. My question was this: If I add Nightshade as a final processing step on my images, to put something in that will scramble the brains of the AI into rendering its reading of my art incoherent, will that impact the quality of the outputs that go to our print fulfillment vendors?

Juan's answer was "No." Artifacts added into the code by these "Poison the Well" tools won't impact fine art print quality with our vendors. Good to know! I still want to research them some more to figure out how it all works, but I am a nerd!

A Nightshade link: https://nightshade.cs.uchicago.edu/whatis.html

Nightshade and Glaze: https://glaze.cs.uchicago.edu/aboutus.html

"Since 2022, our team has released multiple tools, including Glaze, a tool to disrupt art style mimicry, Nightshade, a tool to disincentivize training without consent on scraped images, and WebGlaze, a free web service to make Glaze accessible to artists with limited computing resources. All of our tools are free to use for artists, and will never be used to generate profit. All our expenses for research and advocacy are covered by research grants and donations (Thank you National Science Foundation, DARPA, Amazon AWS and C3.ai)."

OK, I will reply to this message with some more links.

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Chris Boese2d ago

Now, in thinking about alternatives to Meta, I think it is safe to say making a safe place for Human-Made Art is the reason ASF started ArtHelper! So I'm here, using this platform. ASF has given us its commitment to fight scraping and AI ingestion and training by the frontier AI models (hereafter referred to as the Giant Hoovers). For Arty's best tricks, they are using AI to look at our art (like for Art Reviews, etc.), but they promise no training ingestion.

But out on the Interwebs, several other platforms have started too, in reaction to our brave new world of creepy derivative AI art.

I've posted on here before about Cara, and a Forbes article about Cara getting hit with bot swarms. It was built by artists, and I think they needed some engineering help because they grew so fast.

Cara: https://cara.app/explore
Cara Needs Your Help: https://blog.cara.app/blog/cara-needs-your-help
Forbes: https://www.forbes.com/sites/robsalkowitz/2026/08/23/artists-built-a-site-to-escape-ai-scrapers-are-coming-for-it-anyway/

But in direct response to the most recent action by Meta (to be a Giant Hoover), a Kickstarter was launched for something called "Haven." This would be an alternative art posting platform that would incorporate Nightshade/Glaze into all of its posts automagically (that's the hand-wavy part, it's a Kickstarter!). Vaporware, in other words, until it is out.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/havensocial/haven-a-social-platform-stopping-surveillance-and-ai-theft/faqs

It could be that these features (Nightshade, Glaze) could be coming to ArtHelper too! I was chatting with Juan about it in Thursday's webinar.

OK, let's get existential for a second. Lordy, I've been online since 1990. I love it here. Will AI scraping kill the Open Internet?!

Without social media posting, aren't web sites just a tree in the forest with a shingle hung out on it? Is Meta killing its own Golden Goose? (Twitter killed its Golden Goose first. These Tech Bros seem to like cutting off their own noses to spite their faces.

So here's my last hobby horse: The Fediverse. Ultimately, if a billionaire can own a platform, they can do what they want with it. As we like to say, "The Algorithm Giveth and the Algorithm Taketh Away."

Before 1999 this wasn't really an issue. I call that "BG," or "Before Google." The birth of SEO on a new scale that Yahoo! and WebCrawler and other Metatag crawlers couldn't match. After Google, or AG, we assume total web crawling and indexing of all text and images. Copies of images were made by graphical web browsers in order to display them in browsers. There was a time in HTML history when graphical browsers were committing radical acts of copyright infringement, and yes, Marc Andreessen started that too, as a grad student in Illinois (I was in on it, 1993, from upstate NY! Now he's rich and evil I'm not! :-()

Before 1999 and Google's page rank system, we found web pages mostly on our own on the Open Internet (Web). It was fun! After 2001 and the dot.com crash, blogs were born by leveraging SEO's preference for dynamic content updating and RSS feeds. People had blogrolls! They were sort of like blog neighborhoods to hang out in.

By 2006, something called "Friend of a Friend" Networks were born, based on the radical idea that we shouldn't revolve our lives around reverse chronological recency which could be cluttered with spam. So we got Friendster, Tribe.net (I was there!), and MySpace. No algorithms. You just saw the folks you followed.

Put a pin in that idea. If algorithms are oppressing us, if Giant AI Hoovers are oppressing us, if billionaires are oppressing us, what can we do?!

If you don't like the kickball game in one playground (hey, we're Gen X, we disappeared for hours, often playing kickball on playgrounds), you jumped on your spider bike and went to a different playground!

So Mastodon and the Fediverse can't be owned by billionaires. You don't just own your content. You also own your followers (even if they won't give you their email addresses). If one particular playground in the Fediverse pisses you off, you can MOVE your account and take your followers with you.

I know some of you struggle with the Tech of Mastodon or Pixelfed. Bluesky or Threads are easier, especially since Twitter is 50% Russian Bots and the rest mostly Nazis. Bluesky and Threads have on-ramps to the Fediverse the same way AOL first gave its walled garden users an on-ramp to the WWW in 1995.

And to be honest, I think you'd need Nightshade or Glaze on Mastodon or Pixelfed too! Giant AI Hoover. But at least a billionaire can't own it.

There's more to discuss, but I will leave this here for tonight.

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